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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.soulshelter.com/fulfillment/coffee-breakthrough/comment-page-1/#comment-2860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, this suggestion could save a lot of money. A coffee house habit can be very expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, this suggestion could save a lot of money. A coffee house habit can be very expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Keren Hallowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keren Hallowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how you keep updating your blog, it is much easier to use a Wordpress blog than to use a Blogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you keep updating your blog, it is much easier to use a Wordpress blog than to use a Blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This misses the point; I never drink coffee at home unless a guest requests it and I have an Italian stove-top machine. 

I regard coffee drinking as a part of the social experience; I like to sit in a cafe, chat with friends  and observe the passing world. I am a boulevardier.

Most things can be done more cheaply, and often better at home - eating gourmet meals for instance; but there is more to going out than just the consumption. Get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This misses the point; I never drink coffee at home unless a guest requests it and I have an Italian stove-top machine. </p>
<p>I regard coffee drinking as a part of the social experience; I like to sit in a cafe, chat with friends  and observe the passing world. I am a boulevardier.</p>
<p>Most things can be done more cheaply, and often better at home &#8211; eating gourmet meals for instance; but there is more to going out than just the consumption. Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy finance tips by the masters in finance - Daily Links: Kindle Edition - 7th Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easy finance tips by the masters in finance - Daily Links: Kindle Edition - 7th Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the archives at Soul Shelter (a great blog), I came across an older article that tries to explain why millionaires buy espresso machines. The point? It&#8217;s okay to spend for quality and value, especially if it will reduce costs in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.soulshelter.com/fulfillment/coffee-breakthrough/comment-page-1/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, I believe that you&#039;re a bit too invested in your own point of view being correct to see the trees for the forest. 

In my own experience I&#039;ve saved substantially by investing in a decent home machine. I&#039;ve been a barista in the past and find that I can make comparable drinks at a substantial savings. There&#039;s really not much labor to it. 

I don&#039;t roast my own beans. Grinding whole beans and running the machine honestly doesn&#039;t take much longer than using a french press.  

It makes perfect sense to spend a bit more on something that will save you in the long run and last. I&#039;m too poor to buy cheap. 

My initial investment paid for itself within a few months and has saved me a great deal since then. 

I&#039;ve even taken it a step farther (this might seem a bit much to some). I&#039;ve recently purchased a soy milk maker. It&#039;s easy to use, versatile and is going to save me a bunch. Not only can I make my own soy/rice/nut milk; I can also make any mock dairy product that I&#039;d like and my own tofu (which turns out amazing). 

Perhaps it&#039;s a stretch for some but changes like this allow me much needed financial room to breathe. (Not to mention much more rapid debt reduction....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I believe that you&#8217;re a bit too invested in your own point of view being correct to see the trees for the forest. </p>
<p>In my own experience I&#8217;ve saved substantially by investing in a decent home machine. I&#8217;ve been a barista in the past and find that I can make comparable drinks at a substantial savings. There&#8217;s really not much labor to it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t roast my own beans. Grinding whole beans and running the machine honestly doesn&#8217;t take much longer than using a french press.  </p>
<p>It makes perfect sense to spend a bit more on something that will save you in the long run and last. I&#8217;m too poor to buy cheap. </p>
<p>My initial investment paid for itself within a few months and has saved me a great deal since then. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even taken it a step farther (this might seem a bit much to some). I&#8217;ve recently purchased a soy milk maker. It&#8217;s easy to use, versatile and is going to save me a bunch. Not only can I make my own soy/rice/nut milk; I can also make any mock dairy product that I&#8217;d like and my own tofu (which turns out amazing). </p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s a stretch for some but changes like this allow me much needed financial room to breathe. (Not to mention much more rapid debt reduction&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: mathew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any commercial connection to any coffee machine maker, but I can say that Greg&#039;s flat-out wrong. There are home machines for under $2000 which will absolutely make you espresso coffee that&#039;s as good as you&#039;d get from Starbucks or your local favorite cafe. In fact, I&#039;ve had coffee made by professionals that was much worse than I make at home.

And no, a $20 stovetop unit doesn&#039;t do the trick. You need a machine with a pump and a temperature regulator to get the pressure and temperature just right.

The other secret is that you absolutely must buy fresh beans. The difference between beans roasted yesterday and beans roasted a week ago is night and day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any commercial connection to any coffee machine maker, but I can say that Greg&#8217;s flat-out wrong. There are home machines for under $2000 which will absolutely make you espresso coffee that&#8217;s as good as you&#8217;d get from Starbucks or your local favorite cafe. In fact, I&#8217;ve had coffee made by professionals that was much worse than I make at home.</p>
<p>And no, a $20 stovetop unit doesn&#8217;t do the trick. You need a machine with a pump and a temperature regulator to get the pressure and temperature just right.</p>
<p>The other secret is that you absolutely must buy fresh beans. The difference between beans roasted yesterday and beans roasted a week ago is night and day.</p>
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		<title>By: by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>by Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can all agree that many people derive real utility (out-of-home workspace, change of scene, meeting space) or pleasure (excellent coffee, socialization, atmosphere) from visiting coffee shops. I certainly do, even though I don&#039;t drink coffee anymore (at least not since August 2008; wish me luck in staying on the wagon!).

The writer&#039;s point is that such a high-end machine makes sense for people like Dave, who don&#039;t necessarily derive the same utility or pleasure from coffee shop visits.

And I can attest to Terrin&#039;s point that good beans used in a home espresso machine makes better brew than what you get at many coffee shops (though it can&#039;t touch what they serve at Common Grounds, Powell&#039;s, Sound Grounds, etc., sigh -- man, I&#039;d like to drink some coffee right now ... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can all agree that many people derive real utility (out-of-home workspace, change of scene, meeting space) or pleasure (excellent coffee, socialization, atmosphere) from visiting coffee shops. I certainly do, even though I don&#8217;t drink coffee anymore (at least not since August 2008; wish me luck in staying on the wagon!).</p>
<p>The writer&#8217;s point is that such a high-end machine makes sense for people like Dave, who don&#8217;t necessarily derive the same utility or pleasure from coffee shop visits.</p>
<p>And I can attest to Terrin&#8217;s point that good beans used in a home espresso machine makes better brew than what you get at many coffee shops (though it can&#8217;t touch what they serve at Common Grounds, Powell&#8217;s, Sound Grounds, etc., sigh &#8212; man, I&#8217;d like to drink some coffee right now &#8230; )</p>
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		<title>By: Terrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a completely fair comparison. Sure, most of the coffee shop&#039;s costs are labor. However, I spend quite a bit more in time and labor getting to the coffee shop then I spend merely on buying the coffee. For instance, it takes me ten minutes to drive to a decent coffee shop. Ten minutes to drive back in the other direction. That is twenty minutes to get my Joe on top of the time I wait to get it. On top of that, I pay for the gas to get there. My problem might not hold true for you if you live next store to a good coffee shop, but I suspect for many people the issue is valid. 

The good machines cost a lot. However, most require you to merely push a button to have your brew. I don&#039;t own such a machine, but I have a friend who does. If you buy good coffee, the coffee is better then most coffee shops, and a tremendous amount of time is saved by avoiding traveling to the coffee shop to buy the daily cup of joe. 

For what it is worth, it takes me fifteen minutes to change my own oil. I save half the cost of what the shops charge me, I use better oil, and I don&#039;t have to wait the fifteen minutes having somebody try to sell me services I don&#039;t need or want. 

Gregg write, &quot;When you pay some ridiculous $4 for a retail latte, most of that money is going to labor — *not* supplies nor equipment. We could all save a few bucks changing our own motor oil and churning our own butter too while we’re at it, but we largely don’t — and for good reasons.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a completely fair comparison. Sure, most of the coffee shop&#8217;s costs are labor. However, I spend quite a bit more in time and labor getting to the coffee shop then I spend merely on buying the coffee. For instance, it takes me ten minutes to drive to a decent coffee shop. Ten minutes to drive back in the other direction. That is twenty minutes to get my Joe on top of the time I wait to get it. On top of that, I pay for the gas to get there. My problem might not hold true for you if you live next store to a good coffee shop, but I suspect for many people the issue is valid. </p>
<p>The good machines cost a lot. However, most require you to merely push a button to have your brew. I don&#8217;t own such a machine, but I have a friend who does. If you buy good coffee, the coffee is better then most coffee shops, and a tremendous amount of time is saved by avoiding traveling to the coffee shop to buy the daily cup of joe. </p>
<p>For what it is worth, it takes me fifteen minutes to change my own oil. I save half the cost of what the shops charge me, I use better oil, and I don&#8217;t have to wait the fifteen minutes having somebody try to sell me services I don&#8217;t need or want. </p>
<p>Gregg write, &#8220;When you pay some ridiculous $4 for a retail latte, most of that money is going to labor — *not* supplies nor equipment. We could all save a few bucks changing our own motor oil and churning our own butter too while we’re at it, but we largely don’t — and for good reasons.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Links: Kindle Edition ? Get Rich Slowly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Links: Kindle Edition ? Get Rich Slowly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the archives at Soul Shelter (a great blog), I came across an older article that tries to explain why millionaires buy espresso machines. The point? It&#8217;s okay to spend for quality and value, especially if it will reduce costs in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EvonYett</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvonYett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There May not be Wealth and There Is A Great
Love For Espresso and Regular Coffee, and
Would Love To Start My Own Coffee Franchise
and Business Different From Starbucks and
Duncan Donuts.  Any Suggestions?</description>
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Love For Espresso and Regular Coffee, and<br />
Would Love To Start My Own Coffee Franchise<br />
and Business Different From Starbucks and<br />
Duncan Donuts.  Any Suggestions?</p>
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